I agree w/ Jo. I think AOS has emasculated me w/ DB, so to speak. All of that stuff I was doing for W at the house came off as pursuit IMO.

Lately, I've been attending to the K's and picking up the kitchen and living room when I'm there. That's it and it's a mess I helped make, so I'm just picking up after myself.

No more making the bed, or getting her coffee pot ready for the next day, etc. Just stuff that relates to the K's. I shot myself in the foot for months w/ that stuff. I was trying to 180, but now I know that it came off as wimpy and doing it to try to win her back. My actions were genuine, but W saw it as manipulative IMO. As a result, she lost even more respect for me.

I would love to get a booty call from W, BTW. But, I ain't gonna go down that road by my own initiative. Uh-uh! Dangerous road.