Sounds like a very nice convo T, even if it is very complicated. Now sit back a bit and let it sink in with your ex. He'll draw his own contrasts between you and other women.

Just FYI, I did discuss some of these things with my date last night. She indicated that her H did the leaving...a MLC type thing with a 21 y.o OW. It was finally when she said "I've had enough" and truly gave up on it that he scuttled back. That and things fizzled with OW. He did the beg, plead, cry bit but all in vain.

My feeling, and anyone can feel free to correct me, is that for LB women that their walk aways respond to their wife when they have given up and moved on. For men that are left behind my sense is that their wives/ex-wives don't respond to pursuing, but also don't respond the same way to their LB husband moving on. Just my gut impression. It just seems I hear a lot of stories of the man suddenly "coming to his senses" a lot more than wives coming to theirs.

But whatever. Make sure he knows you are GAL. I think your tough love will help him see that he doesn't dangle you.

Good job T.

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