Hellkat thanks mate - I knew you would get it, whilst it goes against Dbing to have said what I did to H, I don't really care at the moment. The fact that he is choosing OW over our son is what made me snap and think O.K. that's it time to draw the line and stop accepting everything as I don't deserve it. So as far as I am concerned I have said what I needed to say told him how it is going to be and that is on my terms as he has had it his way during this whole thing. My understanding is gone as I do not intend on having another conversation with him. Angel whilst our sitch's are similair I tend to disagree with you this time only. I am not upset just want to put my side across. I did ring H and I did do most of the talking but from my point I said what I needed to say explained why, told him I didn't want this but that he had forced my hand with his decision. Kept calm and nice and told him I didn't want to argue that he was a grown adult and responsible for his own decision's and I knew this was hard for him but ultimately he made his decision. I also told him to explain this to OW so she knew she had helped force my hand. The reason I am not worried about this and that he had nothing to say is cause I don't really care. If that is the kind of decision he can make he is not who I thought he was and I will cut him out of my life. I do not intend on having anything else to do with him period. Yes I still love him but not enough for this to be O.K. so the way I see it is he lives his life the way he chooses he chose her and now he can have her soley. Should he split up from her and want to change things, it will depend on how long from now that is but he will need to work on me for me to change my mind and I can't see that that is going to happen. Dbing has served me well and it nearly worked for me but I am now going to control myself and my son the same way the H is controlling his life. You can't control anyone else and I don't intend to. I hope this makes you understand where I am coming from Angel and remember I am not the least upset with what you wrote. Hellkat knows as she has been in a similair sitch and she drew the line in the sand herself and has remained strong since even though it can be hard for her at times. She still has some limited contact with WAS I don't intend to. i know this will greatly depend on him but that is my intention. I will remain on these boards as I am sure it will not go completely to plan so I will be venting but I will more importantly be checking in on everyone else. Onward and Upwards from here......DKD