And...as I said in "your" thread (The Making of an LDW) which was the thread I alluded to at the beginning of this post...I really appreciate your coming in here and trying to help, especially after I so carelessly bounced into your thread and filled it with all my venting which wasn't appropriate for what you were looking for at all. For that I apologize again, and thank you thank you for being understanding and even trying to help after the way I cluttered your thread with all those probably-not-so-helpful comments.