GEL, Thanks for the support. OK, I will try the dates as a friend. One last thing- next Saturday is our 11yr anniv. Last year we went to a downtown hotel and had a nice time. This year I thought about a fancy restaurant, but I cancelled my reservation. This past year has not been good which we would both admit. I don't really feel like celebrating the past year of our marriage. I asked her what she wanted to do. She said she would think about it. I guess that is a positive thing since she would usually say "whatever you want" (which I hate hearing). I am thinking maybe just going out to dinner with our kids, since we both love them dearly and will always connect us no matter what. Does this sound reasonable?