Oh, Ellie, I know you are absolutely right about the white line, and about the worst times for conversation......I gotta get back on the horse (or cycle) and get things under control.

About the undies, yep, you're right, H would SAY he likes a person who is not a "fancy dresser", which is exactly one of ow's many virtues that I got to have extolled to me the other night. HOWEVER, I have come to realize that in this instance what he SAYS and what he REALLY thinks is not the same thing. In fact, we used to get Vickie S. catalogs that were addressed to D, and I noticed they became a part of his bathroom reading material ; and in fact we used to look through them together some. We havent gotten any for a while, and I completely forgot about them. So, I think I'll check out their website and order one to get things started. hmmmmmm

been around awhile!