Hi Jo,

The further I get into DBing, the less useful I find the labeling of people or Rs.

My suggestion is to set up those specific R goals and keep plugging away at them. You can move mountains with such belief and effort, Jo. H may be a very ornery, stubborn mountain, but you've already pulled him quite a distance. Who knows what effort remains, but why not try? Only you can set up the goals that may lead to an ideal R for you and H. Yes, H has been a jerk at times, and yes, he has some major control issues. But I don't know if I'd take one bit of information from a toxic D proceeding ("mutual co-dependency")to use in my current R. Let all of that destructive exchange of misinformation bent on the dissolution of a M (and nothing more) remain in the past, as it likely is hogwash swilled about by Ls to merely validate the D.

You and H share a great love and interest in your DDs. What remains is your creative attempts to fully re-establish your Rs with them. H has no real power over that. Someone posted early a guess that things will likely resolve more quickly when OW moves out. Have you considered having a woman-to-woman heart-to-heart talk with her, noting that its time for her to move on? Especially if you centered this on your love and interest in your DDs?

Pink panther?! One of my alltime favorites! Did you know that Steve Martin is coming out with a remake film this summer? Very odd to see that as a preview.

Gabriel


God heals the broken-hearted (Psalm 147:3)

Me: 44
W: 40
Separated 8/2011

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