Thank you so much Midwest - I hate that you've experienced even a shadow of this pain but it helps me so much to hear from you. I've been DBing for a few months now and while my marriage appears to be over I really don't think I would have made it this far without working on GAL and knowing what to expect and not to react to, etc. He doesn't think he has a problem so thanks, but won't be any reading for him. I'm not sure what direction I'm headed in - he's moving out in the next 2 weeks so I guess it will be going dark or dropping the rope. Please pray for me, as I am for you -