RE Ioavva
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he's not remotely interested and I haven't the faintest clue what to do.



First take care of yourself and eat somethig healthy. Quit trying to guess what Andy is thinking or doing.
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I mean, he said ILY and now this



I agree Jo, tough to be in this up / down type relationship.
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I feel like I'm in total crisis at the moment which is why I didn't want to post



Crisis for sure, I see how hurt you are about your R with Andy and the dissapointment you must feel with the girls not staying over night. I am a dad and can only imagine how a mom might feel not being with her kids.

About not posting Jo, If it becomes too painful quit for a day or two if you have to. Personally I think you need more friends. Sorry we are only cyber ones. It's OK to vent here and ask for help. You certanially deserve our support.

About spending time with your girls, could you possibally have DD1 overnight sometime in the near future? Maybe asking everyone to stay overnight was too big of a step physically to actually happen and too big of a mental step for Andy? Maybe Andy saw there was not enough enough room for everyone and instead of saying something, he pretended to ignore the situation.

While working in the group home I discovered some of the boys did not have the nerve or social skills to ask for something they wanted, so when no one was looking they took it. Basically they felt they had been rejected if someone said no to them. Not trying to make excuses for Andy, just saying some people don't take no's well.

Gabe seems to have the better advice Jo. I just wanted you to know lots of good people here on the DB site are sending you their best wishes directly to you and then wishes for a better R with your girls.

{{{{{Jo}}}}}} Please have something good to eat and drink. NO Alcohol please. Any chocolate candy in the house? How about a small bite?

OG Lou