Jo. Ellie is a doctor about mid 40's but not working for a while. She had some thyroid problems that caused her work and marrital relationships to suffer. Her H was about to call it quits. He had an OW.

Ellie got her thyroid problem under control, got her H to see what he would miss if he left. She did what you were doing when you started DB'ing. Ellie also had to deal with kid problems. I might be a little off on some of my information and hope she will post a link to one of her summaries.

Sometimes I read Ellies post to others for inspiration when I feel what I am doing is not working. She seem to have some insight that applies to many people's situations. One thing she told her H when he was moving out was for him to take the bed they had slept in, she could not think of being in it alone or with someone else. You would have to read the post. I did not do it justice.

Jo, the refrigerator story was over the top. I never imagined anyone would take a refrigerator and it's contents. In my town there are several in the stores people donate their old things. GoodWill, Hospital Charity Store, and Street People Rescue Mission stores. They have lots of clothing, older but usable small appliences, Tumble Dryers (how is my British?), cloth washers, refrigerators, and all kinds of servicable but out of style used furniture. I can see a spouse taking a TV/telly but not a frig.

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I am completely stumped with her and don't even want to understand her anymore and I think she is detrimental to all of us, especially the kids as she can start on the next generation now.
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About your kids and H wanting to take them to see your mother, I think you know best and I would trust your instincts on that one. Maybe your H's boundaries are too lose, He is too easy going. The written guidelined about what you want or don't want to happen while H and kids visit GM sounded like a good idea.

I posted a general view Montana web site so I can show you a little about what MT looks like but still be a little anonymous. I was not looking for any web cams that included anything directly identifiable to you or anything you were involved in. I think most people have mental pictures of people they post to on the internet. I just wanted you to have a sample of what my world looked like.

OG Lou