Hi, Dave.

No threats intended, just the facts as I see them.

You have posted before about your interest in swinging.

My point about your wife's ease of meeting men versus yours, was simply that she will ultimately encounter more opportunity. How sure are you of her strength?

I don't know what is going on in your life, but I have read all your posts here since the beginning, and it seems to me that your moral base has taken a serious hit.

So, I am not trying to make you scared. I AM trying to make you wake up.

If you and your wife are 'practice playing' at bars, then you are traveling on a dangerous road, Dave. I have been down the swinging road.

Before MrsNOP and I were married, I almost got her involved. There was another couple over, we had watched an adult film (and yes, they were films back then, no VCRs) and things started heating up. I had set the situation up, basically set her up. Up until that point in time, she had little idea of how I had spent much of my time, and had no idea of exactly what was about to transpire.

That 'little voice' spoke to me right before things were going to get serious. I listened, and basically ended the 'party'. You have no idea, just how glad I am that she never got introduced to that lifestyle.

Dave, I had never taken anyone I cared about to a 'party' before. I had already seen what a mess 'parties' made out of other peoples lives. Here I was just about to ruin the best thing that ever happened to me - MrsNOP.

You had talked about, in a post a good while back, watching your wife kissing another girl at a bar. Your reaction, as I recall, was not one of anger or frustration. My impression is that you were confused, but mostly liked the idea.

I think that you are setting your wife up to cheat on you, possibly inadvertently, possibly because you have ulterior motives. What I think you need to do instead, is to negotiate a reasonable boundary with her. No singles activities at a bar. If she goes, you go, if you go, she goes, otherwise, neither of you go. No third parties in your relationship.

During our marriage, my business has caused me to travel to many places. I have frequented untold numbers of bars and strip clubs, all in the name of business. I have seen people do all kinds of things, make all kinds of mistakes. Even with my background and experience, I still had little business being in those places. It is like bumper cars at an amusement park, you are going to get hit on. You might want to spend some time considering what your real motivations for playing single in a bar, are.

So, you can listen to a little bit of hard earned wisdom from me, or you can go it on your own. You and I have a bit of history on this forum, as such, I thought it worthwhile to get your attention.

Please be careful with yourself, your wife and your kids. You seem like good people to me, and I would really hate to see you or your family hurt.


All the best,
-NOPkins-


I will ferret out an affair at any opportunity.

-An affair is the embodiment of entitlement, fueled by resentment and lack of respect.
-An infidel will remain unreachable so long as their sense of entitlement exceeds their ability to reason.