Thanks for the suggestions. Some good ones here. I like your "mantras" I think I need to adopt them as well.

Im a little gun shy on the asking what W needs to feel loved. I get more of the same from those ones "Ive told you over and over what it is I want (I want to be happy) so I'm not going to tell you again". Its a nasty little game that gets played here. Dont know about W but im tired of playing.

Mantra of the month "Continue to work on your PMA and self image and hope that it gets taken for what it is".

Thanks again man I appreciate the support.