Thanks Karen, I obviously haven't been completely upfront with my W, or we wouldn't be where we are. I didn't let her know the depth of pain from my abuse, nor did I let her know the severity of my earlier med problem. These things added to our distance. I am not taking all of the blame, to be sure, but I do own up to my part of the prob. I do want to work on R, and can forgive, if we get to that point.