hope, have you tried the LRT? She needs space and like my xw, I would guess she can't stand anyone to be angry with her so she wants to be "friends." My xw put the "friends' thing in a letter, but has certainly not taken any action in making a friendship out of it. I understand what you posted on the previous page about the WAW feeling that D is the only thing they felt they could do and being true to themselves carried them through the act. My D was about as painless financially as one could have also. It cost me some dough, but that was based on $$ she put into our marital home which I kept. I also made it easy on her in that she got her money right away, no waiting for assets to be sold. I think the best thing is to just let them fully experience their "freedom" and maybe it just won't be as great as they thought it was. They don't forget the great times we had together. At least my xw doesn't...she wrote me that she "thinks of those rather than dwelling on why we are apart" whatever that means. GAL is the recipe for our continued success in life and that of our kids. Do yourself a favor and keep on concentrating on being the best father you can be. In doing that, you will think of your xw less and become even more detached. If we remain deeply in love with our xw, then we cripple our own recovery. At some point, we have to earnestly accept it is time to be selfish to a degree for our own health.