Have we tried Relate...yes. We found that at times because of a terrible childhood I will need and want more attention including lm...we found that he was not comfortable with itimate, but came to a compromise that when I needed that he would try and provide it.....does it happen NO....he just tells me you know what we found out I am not good giving itamacy.....he tends to use it as though "well you know I cant give you that...even the lady at relate said that"...he seems to have been given permission to withold whatever...funny though he has a season ticket for soccer and them seats are so uncomfortable...yet he is able to sit through a game with no complaint...when it comes to ml with his woman that is way too much effort...I dont know why i bother!!!!!