Yes HP, that is precisely what I am interested in. Here is something only you can appreciate. The other weekend I missed church with H - I had to set up a baby shower. The weekend before that I was helping my daughter in law and her mother - her mother had a problematic mammogram just 2 mos after her sister died of breast cancer and needed help in telling her daughter. We spent all of mass in the car talking in the parking lot of the church. Anyway, so I missed mass with H twice. On Monday night, he said how much he had missed me in church and how he hadn't liked being there alone. As crazy as it sounds he said this with a lot of emotion in his voice and this was a "romantic" thing to him. I'll bet I could have parlayed that into ML. I realized that in retrospect. Even still, I have ceased wanting to use those moments to ML because I am still holding out for actual displays of something that I recognize as desire.

Don't intend to hijack Fixit and KEB but this is an example of the kind of stuff that HP and I are talking about. Sometimes preoccupied, anxious H's send some little signals that are hard to get. Further, the more tiny and axiety laden those signals are the harder it is to tap into our own desire.

Karen