Yes, I know that my *REAL PROBLEM* is with my relationship with my W, but we can't address that problem until she wants to. Until that time, I can do everything in my power to not push her any further away than she is now. (i.e. DB'ing) ***BUT*** there may be ways to knock the luster off the OM and show his warts to help this along. I'm not talking direct angry confrontation. I won't know what opportunities exist until I know the situation. Kind of like suspenders and a belt, extra insurance.