Quote: If a women can not be a MOM and LOVER, then why the heck are any of us here? Which relationship is more important?
Did you really just say this? Do you see how jeuvenile this sounds?
Quote: Kids are a temporary relationship, but your spouse is forever
Since when? I believe I understand what you are trying to get at CeMar, but if you have kids in your home that have yet to move out it does no good to view that as a "temporary" relationship. And speaking as a mother...you just made my claws come right out by saying that, as a mom...my relationship with my child is not temporary and I feel fairly secure in saying...your W won't view it that way either! If, and I do say if here, you have ever put it that way to your W all that will accomplish is pissing her off.
CeMar, you are not going to make any progress unless you start trying to relate to your W, try to put yourself in her shoes to understand how she feels and where she's coming from. I don't see you really even attempting this...all I see, hear, read is you making this all about YOU, YOU, YOU. "she should do this because....", "she won't do this!", "she can't do this"
