Cemar,

I know you occassionally take a beating around here for your stance...but I wanted you to know that you are certainly not alone in how you feel.

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I would kill to hold hands, to kiss her passionately (it has been many years), to cuddle on the couch, to flirt, to be PLAYFUL. This is all stuff outside the bedroom. It is a little hard to do this with a women whose love language is probably financial security.




I feel exactly the same way in my m.

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Lets face it, us HD guys have very little leverage with our wives, while they have tons of leverage with us(sex).





It's not just the hd guys that have this problem as you no doubt by now know. I have no leverage with my h and it hurts all the more because well let's face it there are some societal beliefs that all men want is sex and since I'm a perfectly desireable woman why the heck doesn't my h want me?

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So here I am in my boat by myself trying to figure out what change I can make in myself that might actually make her want to face her own demons.




Now see that's part of the problem...if you are busy trying to figure out what changes will elicit changes in her your not going to get anywhere but further frustrated. Why not instead figure out what changes can make YOU happy that can help you to face whatever deamons you might have. Now of course that may sound like I'm suggesting you become ld yourself...bah to that..it wont work. But it may make you feel better to focus on bettering the other areas of your life that may or may not include w. And in the end who knows a happier more relaxed you may just be the incentive w needs to face her own demons.

LL