Greeneyes, You are probably right. I was just venting some frustrations. I would say my w got into it at least half of the time. I could tell because (well not to get too graphic here) but she would be soaked and she would make a mess all over me. I didn't mind, actually I thought her "wetness" was a turn on. She tells me now that her issue is that in the past she enjoyed sex if it meant trying to have a baby. Well we have 3 boys so we are pretty much done in that department, so her issue is when sex happens now, she gets upset because we are not trying to have a baby. She will be 37 in two weeks. Is this an MLC, hormonal thing, or menopause? I would like to think she will be past this in a few years.