Hi Penn. I'm sorry that you're struggling. It sounds like you guys need some professional help to help you see other's points of view.

Have you considered ordering Michele's Marriage Breakthrough seminar? It's very good. I've watched it once and my H and I are in the process of watching it together in segments.

Also, I've heard good things about Retrouvaille. I'm not sure if I mentioned this to you already, sorry if I did. www.retrouvaille.org Or maybe you could call one of the DB coaches to put you on the right path.

Either way, I hope you guys can get over this hump. You've come so far.

Geneva