geneva, I get it! I'm such a dunce. That's the same approach I'd use in business when there's no emotion involved of course. Whilst I have your attention tell me. Valentine's day is coming and everything I read said don't send flowers. I did early in the D proceedings but haven't in 6 months. What about now? does it come across as loving or control? I think you and our other W's from this great community have expressed great insight so I'd appreciate you thought on flowers for Valentine's Day. Thanks