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I love Mrs. Nops response. She is a wise woman. What is something in your W's life that she just cannot do without? What if she could no longer have her favorite coffee or lipstick or if she could only have it once she quit asking for it for some undetermined period? What can any of us do well for a carrot that has a stick of undetermined length?

Karen, who knows how long the stick is just not how to get the carrot more often

PS Lou - we have teenage foster kids (boys)who frequently list "not my fault" as their reason for just about everything they do and everything they don't do.