citizen_cat, Lots of good people here, even to the point "IF I/we could loan your H some of our horniness for a week we would. At least someone would be getting what they want. Since we can not do that, We read, we post our problems and feelings, looking for solutions.

We discover little things that we think will work toward a baby step, we try it, we evaluate the results. Sometimes we feel encouraged by the results, sometimes we wonder if what we do is even worth trying. Mostly we continue to work on the relationship and come here for what ever we can find to improve our R, to sooth our emotions, or to vent.

I liked the "Divorec Remedy" book the most. SSM was interesting and I got some things from reading it, but my W is not at a place where it would do much good. So I am not putting the cart before the horse. The R comes first.

Sounds like cathy47 can tell you what not to do, which is more important in the beginning, as what to do later. Read her history.

Off to work again. I am glad you feel a little better.

OG Lou.