Lou, your examples really made me think... I was sort of taken aback by them. Partly in a good way-- ie that you would be aroused by, but certainly be judgemental of a woman doing this in some scenarios-- the ones where you'd be writing her off as LTR material. I was just sort of confused about the idea that in one or more scenarios, you would see the woman as manipulating-- doing this for some ulterior motive? Like trading sex for vaccuuming? This does not compute for me....