Hey Betsey, Sorry for barging in. I posted a "whatever you call it" and OG_Lou says I should read your stuff on WAW but I'm new to this site and can't find it. I did a search for underdog and found this post. Here's my situation maybe you can direct me? First: My W served papers August 20th after 33 years of marriage and shortly after spinal cord surgery. I'm working in the Midwest staying in a one bedroom apartment while she lives in the $ million house in California. Amazingly, she remembers so much negative from the past; a USC Notre Dame game of 1972 where I got mad at a USC running back but forgets all romantic moments. I've read this is typical. I went to counseling on my own and she did too. After much complaining she agreed to joint counseling and we have for three months but mostly they've been sessions chronicling all my past sins or diatribes of how her life was happy before me. I remember a different story about constant criticism and felling like a second class citizen. She now praises a family upbringing she once detested. I've read both the DB nd DR along with 12 other books. I'm practising what I've read with many mistakes. I find the process rewarding in terms of how much I've learned, taken control of myself, and how well I handle the attacks. However, it's been three months and I see no progress. She still attacks, and I'm running out of gas. Any suggstions? AND: Since I wrote this I completed a mission. It was really enlightening. I strongly recommend it. "Life's Journey." Christmas was tough. We all visited our son. It was a difficult time for me . W has presented herself as the classic victim and me as the villian. Then she invites her parents and sisters with family. Talk about overkill. Then she plays Polly Anna. I gave her a card and present, one she truly coveted and one a joke. For Me? Nothing. I've laid low with no invites to do anything. Family wise my offers to see a movie, an NBA game, dining out all were rejected. I'm feeling down. My counselor says politely excuse yourself and fly home. My thoughts go beyond just leaving today. I'm tired of DB and maybe it's time to realize this is one that doesn't work. Recently I visited "Another Diivorce Busted" catagory and didn't see any success in years. Any one else in this position? Any thoughts? Can you help me find a recent success story about WAW. I'm plain tired! Thanks, TAGIII