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#379322 12/01/04 03:15 AM
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$20 in the kitty for Corri ticket to go to Kansas City. Corri and HairDog, you guys have to tape the meeting between Corri and Mrs HairDog so all of your cyber friends can see how Mrs. HairDog reacts when confronted by a HD woman.

Corri easy on the kicking. You do not want to end up in jail even with HD as your attorney.

OG Lou, Talks is OK but Likes to see action.



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I'll match that $20 towards airfare.

And, I am hanging lights today. My red chili pepper lights, and I'm hanging them on the headboard of my bed.

I am doing it just for affect. I wonder what, if anything, he'll say when he sees them. LOL

I also agree with the Buddist comments. Buddist philosophy is very mellow, accepting; not angry or explosive or judgemental.

I do have one shred of empathy for Mrs HD's issues with regard to objectification-- I'm not a fan of porn or the entire sex industry for that reason and others. But that is light years away from the context of lovely horndog behavior between a couple.

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Corri wrote
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There are two kinds of Buddhists. Those who spout Buddhist teachings, and those who understand what is as it is.


Ditto for Christians, Jews, and probably others, too...

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Lillie,
I thought that same thing! You can call yourself whatever the heck you want but it's when the rubber hits the road that matters.

I'm not matching any $$ for Corri to fly to KC cause I want her to stick with her original plan and fly to STL and see ME!

And, really, all this talk of philosophy is a waste of time. We all know that MrsHD's reasons for not ML to Hairy do not have one iota to do with Buddhism or Christmas lights or porn. Those just come to the forefront of her mind when she is asking herself why she doesn't want sex.

Oh and I heartily agree with Journey--she was baiting him into saying something sexual so she could then be justifiably indignant.

The chick has an anger management problem.

Honeypot

P.S. Corri, all the best to your dad. If he has half the p*ss and vinegar in him that you do, then the cancer does not stand a chance. Hugs.

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Okay, Corri, I'll bite. What's mu? (And don't say, "I dunno, what's mu with you?") I have a feeling it won't have its intended effect as our DD3 has been acting like a "baby cow" lately and the word "moo" has been passed back and forth in our house quite a bit. Maybe "mu" is pronounced differently than "moo." Can you give me the pronunciation as well?

As far as her lack of "attainment" and calling me and others "unenlightened," the irony has always been clear to me. But to be honest, I did more than make a sound when I saw the Vic Secret model. I made a sound, raised my eyebrows and thought to myself, "there is one very beautiful woman. I like looking at her. It is a pleasurable feeling to look at her. She is too thin, but that is a common problem among VS models. I like her smile. She has nice eyes. Also, nice boobies, and her bottom is pleasing to my eyes." I did not think about her personality, what books she might like to read, whether she likes to bake cookies, or what kind of home life she has. To that extent, I admit I was objectifying her. No less than we all objectify celebrities. But my "hmmmm" did not deserve the lecture.

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HD wrote
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"there is one very beautiful woman. I like looking at her. It is a pleasurable feeling to look at her. She is too thin, but that is a common problem among VS models. I like her smile. She has nice eyes. Also, nice boobies, and her bottom is pleasing to my eyes."


I wish my bf would occasionally "objectify" me like that. <sigh>

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But my "hmmmm" did not deserve the lecture.


I agree with you there. Guys love looking at beautiful women. So what if you make a "yummy noise" about it?

Does your reaction to the commercial mean that you want your W to look like those women? No. Does it mean that you won't ML to your W because she doesn't look like those women? No. Does it make your W feel like a "lesser" woman? Maybe, but you've given her no reason to believe that - and that's her problem to deal with, not yours.

I am sure I should shut up now.


- Chris.

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Chris: I totally agree with you, that it's her problem to deal with, not mine. I'm trying to learn not to "own" her problems. She wants me to own them and make them mine, and, in the past I have done so. That's the fusion talking. It's a process I hope to improve.


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Hairy,

It is interesting that your W shows a little jealous streak. I really think that is part of it even though it is couched in feminist rhetoric. My attitude is that if my H makes the occasional "yummy noise" about a woman or surfs the occasional porn (both of which he does) I don't really care as long as I am not walking around in a drought (which I am). Then it really p*sses me off! What happens if you try a bold comment to your W like, "These women are attractive but honestly I would rather boink you dear."

Karen, who admits that her own occasional jealous feelings are not very attractive

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HD:

Your wife and mine are very similar on this. They both suffered through dysfunctional familes early in life. Divorced parents, suffering through abandonment, the unability to trust others, since the adults in their lives pretty well failed them. So who wants to want? As the experts say, women that grow up in dysfunctional familes tend to be dysfunctional themselves. I read these experts and it is like they are writing about our wives. It like they can not trust us because they could not trust others early in life. THey LOOK for reasons to justify their position. The fact is that their wants as children were never met, so they learned to KILL those wants to avoid the disappointment. Unfortunately, that means they have hidden away most of their emotions so as to not get them hurt today. In effect, they can not trust because trusting others only HURT them earlier in life. My own wife can also complicate this by throwing on sexual abuse possible as well. Now the real problem: Both of our wives would never admit that they need counselling, but I bet that both of them really do need counselling for their childhood problems. So what to do? I have no freaking idea. But one thing is certain, we must not do anything that might bring up the issue of trust. We have to be squeaky clean with the trust issue to have any hope of bringing down their defenses.

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