Quote: Tell her that her tr belief seems to be that one can only prove true love through heroic acts of celibacy, therefore she is linking love and sex more strongly than the average garden variety HD. She wants you to slay the dragon of your own sexuality in order to win the princess.
This is interesting. In this warped way of thinking, wanting to be with someone WITHOUT sex is more noble and heroic than wanting sex with them. This sounds a bit like where honey's H is coming from: If he can be with her and "rise above" his sexual urges, it's more a proof of love than simply giving in and having sex.
It's almost like the "courtly love" of medieval days. Here's a quote on that subject:
Quote: Chastity was another characteristic of courtly love, but it is a subtle concept in this context. From ancient Rome to the Middle Ages poets enumerated the "five lines of love":
gazing, speaking, touching, kissing, coitus;
they may be understood as five degrees of intimacy. Courtly lovers were permitted all except the last, also known as "the gift of mercy" or "the reward." Even here we must draw finer distinctions, for in some cases coitus without ejaculation may have been permitted. The rationale was that ejaculation quenches desire and, especially if pregnancy results, transfers the relationship from Eros (eternal longing) to Venus (procreation).* ...Given the practical and spiritual dangers, abstinence was probably the safer course for most couples. So long as desire persisted, Eros was present, for it was desire that allowed divine union, according to the Fedeli d'Amore. Therefore, in courtly love desire had to remain unsatisfied.
*I guess this would explain the disappearance of sex after babies.