Karen said
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I feel as if all of us are looking for life with all the adjectives and our parnters can only cope with the noun. They want a marriage. We want a loving, juicy, sexy, fabulous marriage. They want a husband or wife or partner but they are afraid of the fullness of what each gender brings to the table. A toast to the hedonists we are!

This is absolutely true! I've often conveyed this message to BF. He's starving in the midst of plenty. Karen, have you looked into the book Sexual Anorexia by Patrick Carnes? BTW, Karen, YOU are my soulmate!

Honey said
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But, like my H, [Mrs Hairy] prides herself on being able to subvert that drive and take that energy and pour it into something else.

Also right on the money!! What's up with these people? Why does it feel bad to them to feel good? (Rhetorical question. )

Honey also said
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And I really detest the way she tries to bait you. She pulls up a porn site on accident and then gets YOU in there to see it, wanting so badly for you to get turned on so that she can profess her disgust for what an animal you are.

Again right on! And this makes me see RED!! Why is she so cruel to you??? My God, if you said that kind of stuff to her, she'd erupt like a volcano!

What if you told her, "Knowing you feel that way, I'm outta here." Is that what she's trying to get you to say?

Lil, fuming, snorting and stamping her feet!!