HP,

Yeah - I do the female version of "initiation" too. If I just ask he would probably comply. I am just frustrated with the whole deal. A la Schnarch - foreplay has been negotiated down to a pitiful thing at this point. The only time it is different is when he gets revved up on his own. However, the longer I sit and wait the more the inertia goes the wrong direction.

The "issues with women" refer to the fact that he has little relationship with his mother or his step mother. He is great and very respectful with women in the business setting but seems wary of the girlfriends of our foster kids, of their mothers and their female relatives. He has dated and been sexual with relatively few people for his age and has not had particularly long dating relationships. Why it was different with me I have no clue.

Karen