Barn,
You will laugh at this but I'm gonna DO THIS. Not that he will cooperate with it, he won't, but just so that I don't have to hear him profess to not know what I'm after. Then I can just say go look in the (chock full) box of notecards.

He would get a kick out of it. But then he would throw them all away! No joke.

Oh and I was laughing at #'s 1 and 2.
He does no sexual behavior at all while the kids are awake. That's why the last 2 wks have been so enjoyable and unusual--he would make comments or do things while they were awake to add to the sense of anticipation. It was delightful! (before anyone turns me into DFS, the overtures were so slight that they probably do worse on the Disney Channel...it was NOTHING that my kids could not have seen or heard)

#3 he would say that he would LOVE to do, cannot WAIT to do it, and then........................he just never would.
If I asked him about it, he'd get all hot and bothered again but would still have no reason why he didn't do it. Oh, wait I forgot, he'd use the old Kids standby. He would, however, have a snack that night once we were safely in bed. (with the door open, making all kinds of racket and within 4 feet of our girls' door. WHAT would it matter if we were on the couch you say? who knows.)

#4 He would do this one, but he'd make a joke out of it and would refuse to be serious, due to his own insecurities.

#5 Boy it DID get hot in here, you're right!
Anyway, he'd say the same as above. Would LOVE to do it, can't WAIT to do it and then.......it'd never happen.

If I made all the kiddie arrangements, lit the damn candles, turned on the music and told him to get to bed, he'd do it, and he might even be excited by the lingerie provided it was nothing he'd never seen before and wasn't too raunchy.

Honestly he doesn't see the difference between the two scenarios--him doing it and inviting me and surprising me, or me arranging it and we do it. To him, we're doing the same things.

But, like I said, I love this idea! I realize it is somewhat passive aggressive of me to want to do this, knowing that he won't do any of them and will let it sit and collect dust, but at least he won't be able to say that I'm not willing to "help" him out.

Mike, here's the problem. I think my husband wants to be pursued and "talked into" making love, much in the same way a lot of women do. He needs the emotional connection to even be able to THINK about making love. Even then it is no guarantee.
Sucks.

Oh well, I'm doing it and I'd be in touch if you'd ever start a new thread!

HP