Pam, Slowly, Mooka, thanks so much for the support.

I'm sorry to do this but I summarized the last 24 hours over at the thread I have over in the Seperated forum and I just don't have the umphf to post it over here.

Actually, I think I have to go a bit beyond mysterious and more like going as dark as I can without impacting D11. Another words, only see CAW whenever I drop or pick up D11 and even then since she stays in the livingroom at the other end of the apartment I probably can leave without seeing her at all.

... and only talk to her when it concerns D11. Like I just found out about a model train show this Sunday. So, I will call D11 tomorrow and see if she is interest in going. If so, then I will talk to CAW to see if its OK with her and that's it.

Thanks again for all your inputs, it really did help make me feel all is not lost yet, just need to stop trying so hard.

'til later,
KAW