hd, what did you think your W's reaction was going to be when you asked this? I'm afraid I see her statement about "apprecation for asking" as sarcastic, am I wrong? I think the more you ask such things, the more she will not consider meeting you halfway...I think that for the long haul, you might have to pretend to not be interested until she thinks you are on your way to not wanting her anymore...only then when you see results with this kind of LD behavior. And I agree, she feels crappy about herself physically and hence does not feel sexual. She's the only one who can do something about that.