Sportster
I have asked H about some things he had said to me i.e. never seeing us get back together, he and OW are very happy and sees a future with her, I need to live my life etc.. And he said he said those things to not so much convince me but to convince himself that he was trying to justify what he was doing and the decisions he was making he was completely convinced that he was doing the right thing. And eventually I realized this for myself and anything he said to me that was hurtful towards me I just tried to not let it get to me and just let it roll off my back because I knew deep down he didnt mean what he was saying. And I also adopted a new motto: "Sometimes the only way to get someone back is to just let them go" I stopped contacting him completely left it totally up to him days may have gone by and I had to fight the erge to call him but I had to do it. And H also told me that one time he called in the middle of the week to "discuss" the D papers he said he really just wanted to hear my voice. So again go back to the believe nothing you hear and half of what you see.
Anything is possible miracles happen and I believe every marriage can be saved of course if there is abuse of any matter then it shouldnt be but all other ones regardless of how hopeless it seems do have a chance
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