thanks mem I really appreciate the uplift I know that a part of me has to think this is a good thing let him live with her and reality set in for awhile and it will either make them or break them and if it breaks them and IF he wants to try and get his family back then its my decision not his. And yeah it is a good thing that her D will not even be started for awhile like we say Time is on OUR side About stalling my D believe me I will do what I can to stall it but I think with him being in NC and only being here 1 weekend a month that will stall it as well. Im not sure how long it would take a D in Fl to go through though?? And yeah maybe when he gets the papers to it will "wake" him up and shake him into reality but honestly I dont see him being served as waking him up because he is still in euphoria with his feelings for OW. You know why they dont do the D they want us to because we are their stability whether they realize it or not deep down they dont want to truly give us up completely yet at least not until THEY are 100% sure they want to. Deep down they all know that these OP are "fun" but I think they also may realize that wow what will happen when the fun is gone will I want to still be with this OP? And thats when they start thinking about us. Like they say only 5-10% of these A's go on and produce long lasting loving R's or M's. OK now let me read my own post and take my own advice LostInFl