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#358854 11/23/04 12:18 AM
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Hey all,

Just wanted to wish everyone a happy Thanksgivng. This will be the first Thanksgiving that H and I have spent apart in 23 years. He is still in Brazil. I am sure that it will be a tricky day for many of us who are db-ing.

I am still here, thinking about what I am thinking about, still dbing but just not on the board for right now. I haven't been posting or lurking for that matter but my good thoughts are with you all.

Thanksgivng blessings,

Pam

#358855 11/23/04 09:29 AM
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Hi Pam - Wishing you well, and happy times with your children.

Slowly


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#358856 11/23/04 01:15 PM
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Hi Pam,

Just in case you pop back by, wishing you and the boys a wonderful Happy Thanksgiving!


Pam

"We must be willing to let go of the life we had planned
so as to have the life that is waiting for us"
#358857 12/02/04 10:58 AM
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Hey all,

Just checking back in.

I have been working on taking my problems, cares, and concerns to God.

Updates: Violence errupted at S15's school last Wed. He was not physically hurt, but the whole community has been emotionally wounded.

H was not home for T-giving, as he was still in Brazil. But he "surprised" us by showing up unexpectedly last Saturday.

Slowly but surely we are re-connecting but the pace is maddening.

Recent revelations have allowed me to discover several hurtful things. One being that he continues to support ow financially. He sent her $ even after we returned from China. He always says it is the last time, but it never is.

When he went to Europe back in September, he had ow fly from Brazil to meet him there. This is extremely hurtful to me as he never, in 15 years, took me there, and the last 8 years he has been going 2x a year.

It also sucks because $ is very tight and this was an expense we could not afford.

My grandpa is now in a nursing home after his stroke.

My brother and I had a huge blowup fight on Sunday. He does not respect or understand my standing for my marriage or belieiving it will be restored.

Positives-
To the best of my knowledge H stayed in a hotel the last time he was in Brazil, rather than with ow.

?H says that the $ he spent on taking ow to Europe was a cheap way to find out that he couldn't live with her 24/7.

H came to church with us this past Sunday.

S15 was not physcically hurt during recent school violence.

Today my financial planner is coming to pay me a visit and taking me out to lunch (just business). I am a big girl and can do this w/o H having to be involved.

Tomorrow is a fun day in Chicago, shopping and lunching with 2 gal pals.

I am still trying to be positive and upbeat, not always easy in the midst of this storm.

I am reading a book called Every Heart Restored, which is about a wife's healing in the light of her H's sexual sin (has more to do w/ the effects of porn , but does also apply to an A).

The revelation I got from reading is that certain emotions such as love, forgiveness, and committment can exist in a vacuum, meaning that they can be one sided. But trust can only be in relationship. I can only trust H when he is being trustworthy.

Reading that, it makes perfect sense, but I had been beating myself up because I would keep trying to trust H and keep being disappointed.

Now I know that I don't have to trust him until he proves himself trustworthy.

That is like a weight off my shoulders.

take care all,

Pam

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Of course you can't trust him until he becomes trustworthy.

But if you believe the Mars/Venus theory of men and women, being admired and trusted is their biggest need. So why do they screw themselves up?

Ellen -- Still Growing

I want more...

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Hi Pam - Its good to see your update; even with discoveries of more hurtful decisions by H, you are able to navigate through the positives. How is S15 - it must be bewildering for him to see his world being threatened on multiple fronts

Be well, Pam.

Slowly


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Hi Pamila

How are things with you? Do drop by and tell us, if you care to!

Livnlearn


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