HH,

I think the masturbation issue is a loaded one. You would do best to leave it well alone and approach the issue from the angle of what you want. I know it is hard because it makes you feel rejected, and rightly so.

I am glad that I never approached masturbation in a negative way, although I always wanted to. It is a very private part of his sexuality and it is his alone. WB gave you some excellent insight on this. I have some more thoughts on this and I'll try to organize them and post them in my thread so as to avoid hijacking yours.

J