S - thanks for the reply. I know my dad cheated and then tryed to get back with my mom, for over 10 years he tried to make it work, but it never did so it finally ended in D. It seems like most folks I've known - once they had an affair, then the real relationship with the spouse was never the same or repaired. I guess I'm looking at how to make this work if I ask her to forgive me, but if there isn't a chance now, then I should just let it all die and move on.