This thread has degenerated into mass self pity. What happened to differentiation guys? You lot need a kick up the backside. Stop letting your LDs boss you around. That's why your not getting any. Frog, you're mad! Tell her straight to clean up the house - and to have it done by the time you get back from the pub. hd, Tell her you need the wood to build a sauna and love nest. SD - Wearing the trousers again in his R.