I was me, m&k'sdad, not SM, who brought my W to tears by eating her out. Yes, I think there is something deep down or way back that she isn't telling me. I haven't broched (sp?) the subject of the technicalities of sex since she made her "unskilled" comment over a year ago. I've been trying to get her more comfortable with me. Recall that she is Japanese, as in born and raised in Japan, so many of the norms for us the the West may not hold for her. Still, the Japanese are a pretty lusty crew, in some ways with fewer inhibitions than us (for better or worse, age of consent is pretty low there). Also, as I mentioned in my other thread, W, D6, S4 and I all sleep in the same bed (another Japanese custom) so pillow talk is difficult. I guess what I'm getting at is that she kind of wants me to know what she wants without asking. It sucks.