CeMar, I am a "needy" person and definitely need desire as you do but I now see that you can't make someone desire you by force of persuasion. You have to create an environment where eventually she will desire you because the new life you have created for her is in itself desirable. For example, say you can blow through your gridlock and come out the other side with a relationship where you are ML twice/three times a week and have intimate conversations and both feel in love with each other. That, after many years of gridlock, is a very desirable position to be in and my guess is that your LDW and my LDW would desire to keep a life like that once they got used to it. The problem is breaking through the gridlock and that does not come easy and pain free. SD - the strongest force in the universe is the force of habit.
