I've also been going to post this from vacation: The night we had our "tearful discussion" while we were out of state, H talked about D, how much he was missing her and how he had for a long time, that "she was always my little girl and then when she was a teenager she didnt want anything to do with me except when we were out here. Then she was my hiking buddy and we could spend all kinds of time together and talk like we had when she was little. Now even that's gone". H cried and sobbed his heart out so much I even felt sorry for him. MIL has said all along she believes H missing D since she went away to college is part of this. Sound like MLC stuff to anyone? Do you think it would be of any help to do a time line on the MLC forum? has anyone done this?