Hi again TC, I was going to mention the 180 of not mentioning the OW that you suggested and forgot....you are absolutely right, I think that might be a great 180 for me, and I have actually had that as a short term goal about 2 months ago....I think it was the end of March, I set a goal of not mentioning her until June...(I had to set a time frame, because "forever" seemed to unacheivable, LOL!)....and I almost made it, got until the middle/end of May and somehow got into a heated discussion and wound up throwing H's frozen lunch at him as he left for work.....being able to act "as if" she doesnt exist, is out of the picture is a big part of dropping the rope for me, and of moving on w/my life....I do better at it at times and worse at other times, and it's scary. I think I'm afraid I will miss something if I give up focusing any attention on her. Work for me to do there, huh? I am going to renew that focus/effort though....someone else...maybe it was you! posted recently that it really made their H wonder what was going on when they started ignoring OW....