Im sitting here reading these posts in thinking wow I wish I had come up with some of this stuff before. I hate it I have a whole convo up in my head then when it comes out of my mouth it always gets messed up.

Dave,

I really liked the way you put the wants instead of asking them to do some fixing on there own. That will be a much easier convo to have. That way my needs are presented very clear and consices<sp>. Then the ball is in her court to do something.

The problem is that I think she is just going to throw back the whole why dont you just F#ck some one else bit. At this point in time im not sure that she really wants the marriage to work. Im not sure she wants to work on her issues because they seem big.

Im pretty much at the end of this so it is either make it or break it time.

Lee