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there seems to be two aspects-- physical pleasure and emotional intimacy.



You hit the nail on the head with that!
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I have to feel "safe" and feel mutual affection.



I truly believe this is what I was lacking in both of my first marriages...although I might have to add respect in with the mutual affection. I didn't have that...so I didn't feel "safe".
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I'm not totally into it going in... I can get there if someone takes there time.



This is very important to remember...I know there are many of you out there like myself who are sick to death of having to initiate...the fact is though we're going to have to suck it up and "just do it"..are you sick of me saying that yet? That phrase applies to us HD's just as it does the LD's. Its soo difficult for us HD's to maintain our patience as we constantly get rejected. But we need to try to keep in mind that there are LD's out there (like my hubby) who will get into ML if you can just kick start their engine. For me it feels like a chore to do that and I have to squelch feelings of resentment. But now that I look back on some of my posts...I think I'm going to have to take some of my own advice, take a deep breath, and try again. After all...how is he going to learn to start to initiate more with me if I in turn don't teach him that it's a safe place to go? I really hope that made sense...it did in my head.


Well behaved women rarely ever make history!