Hi Pen,

You raise a good point... I suspect my H's mind was working this way. He told me some of this, and told me lots about his own confusion. (He has moved out of OW place 4 times and has moved home twice.)

I don't want to take over the joint thread here... I've got my own... but do want to clarify. He did file and then decided divorce was the wrong thing for us (I almost did this too, so I can understand). He asked me to take him back, came up with a plan to live on his own for several months instead and get his head pulled together before coming home, to pay back OW the money he reportedly owes her, to build our R slowly. Things seemed to be going ok... slow, but good in many ways. He didn't make more than a week or two on his own before he started saying the living situation he was in wouldn't work.

Then he gave me D papers in March-- right around my birthday-- like my own little bomb #2. His reason? "I can't hold this over your head anymore." (funny, as far as I knew we were talking about him moving in this summer, not D).

This is why I don't get why he's acting the same way as before. Though I do feel like he was pushed a bit into giving me the papers; he'd just started C right around that time.

Betsey, sure am glad to know this canoe is large enough for more than one. I can use the paddling help!

Seems to me you're right about Mr. W having to come up with more than liking your car. But from the outsider's perspective, it seems he is s-l-o-w-l-y getting there, no?

It appears to me that he is making some glacial movements and your communication sounds great right now. Whether that's enough to keep you keeping on isn't for me to say, but seems like there is reciprocation at least on the friendship, appreciation of your hard-earned personal changes... these are positives.

wonder