Quote: but I'd say in most cases it's a joint effort, and a toss-up who leaves first
so what came first? the chicken or the egg?
i am seriously dealing with this issue as of late - pen your statement here deserves some conversation - do we constantly go back to who did what to whom first?
let's start with this...
we can all go round and round about who did what to whom that made whomever do what they felt was necessary to do
but it all comes down to the eternal truth
we are all free moral agents and we CHOOSE to do what we do because what is COMFORTABLE to us at a certain time