Thanks, and thank you also, Tim, for your replies. I kept seeing references to the "180" thing on the Forum, but did'nt really understand what it was.

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Also, if he'd completely stopped pursuing and initiating, that would have been a 180. I would have noticed that he seemed to have lost interest in ML and would have wanted to know why, which might have led to a discussion about how he actually felt and what he really wanted (BTW, it turns out that his need for physical affection goes far beyond ML to also include lots of nonsexual physical touch such as foot and neck rubs).





That is what I HAVE done, exactly, and my desire for things like backscratches and just nice kissing and stuff is EXACTLY the same. But I can assure you, my wife NEVER ASKED what was up, and we've now gone on this way for almost three years. I know that she KNOWS that I'm frustrated and sad; we've talked about it before in our marriage many times. I thought that this "180" or "he who cares the least, wins" gambit would at least get her ATTENTION, but it has not.

Choc.