Thank you so much for the reply. I am SO grateful to have found this site. I will be posting more in the future. I have a question for both of you gentlemen which I hope you can be honest with me about. Have you used masturbation to deal with this SSM, or have you abandoned that as well? Can a person have a celebate relationship, masturbate, and still have a civil relationship with the W? Do you just take steps like antidepressants to nix the libido? That, at this point, sounds like a workable possibility.