Hi Totite, Just wondering if you survived your trip to the zoo!! You are a brave woman!!! 14 kids--I can barely keep track of my own three!!

You asked me on my thread about dating H. I say, ask him out. Find somewhere for the kids to be and go out. Don't make elaborate plans--maybe just dinner at one of your favorite restaurants or maybe even some place new. I mean, all he can say is no, right?! Maybe it will get the ball rolling on some alone time.

I just said to my H, 'Mom is taking the boys for the evening on Saturday night. Would you like to go out to dinner with me?' Surprised him, but he said yes. You can read my thread about the outing. Wish it had been longer and that the evening had went in another direction, but....we've been told it takes a month for every year married to fix this mess. Guess that means I have 20 months to go. Oh well, I'm in it for the long haul, and I know that you are too.

Good luck, DNO